tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8133337349608142588.post5393242008715809457..comments2024-02-28T03:43:57.586-08:00Comments on FET (old posts): CityCycle scheme, bicycle helmet laws, and a better alternativeCameron Murrayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08737859133901303110noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8133337349608142588.post-65990450210743258942016-05-25T01:38:49.619-07:002016-05-25T01:38:49.619-07:00Be grateful for expressing for this types of post ...Be grateful for expressing for this types of post expressing. Excellent write-up.<br /><a href="http://Phillybikeattorney.com" rel="nofollow">www.phillybikeattorney.com</a>BrendaPalmerihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00413601920483928620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8133337349608142588.post-61732907137829075362011-06-01T23:13:39.392-07:002011-06-01T23:13:39.392-07:00I thought we won the war against these people in 1...I thought we won the war against these people in 1945- Nazi's.... they tell you what you must do- wear a helmet!<br /> They tell you what brand of bicycle you must ride! (try parking a privately owned bike at the station!)<br /> Really!!!! the sooner we bury the last baby boomer the better, as they are all just a bunch of backhander merchants, like Gordon Nutall!<br /> The advertising space at the stations is where the real money went to and you and me paid for them to profit from it. <br />Lets stick to the free society idea.. hey?<br />Damo'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8133337349608142588.post-66026452523074439682010-05-13T22:58:52.934-07:002010-05-13T22:58:52.934-07:00I don't think we should have a bike station, a...I don't think we should have a bike station, as everyone living in new farm, Valley own our own bikes so why waste the space!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8133337349608142588.post-53002722920071367482010-05-10T20:46:27.224-07:002010-05-10T20:46:27.224-07:00Hey Cam - great post - I reckon bicycle schemes ar...Hey Cam - great post - I reckon bicycle schemes are a great idea in principle, but the BCC is completely jumping the gun in trying to implement one here and is essentially assuming that the reason why people aren't riding bikes is either (a) because they don't own one, or (b) because they live too far away and only want to use one in the inner city. I reckon that neither assumption really stands up and there are a whole host of reasons for which these schemes work elsewhere and not here. <br /><br />People cycle in Amsterdam and other European cities because it's far more convenient than driving - the roads are narrow, parking is limited and petrol costs a lot. It's generally faster to ride, you can park anywhere and because the city is geographically far smaller as well as flatter it's also a lot more attractive. In Brisbane, the city is spread out, hilly, parking is relatively plentiful and petrol relatively cheap so driving is by far the most convenient mode of transport.<br /><br />I'd say that other barriers to people riding bikes (as you said) are helmet hair, hills, scared of riding on the roads, not knowing the way or where bike paths are, being sweaty when they arrive, and not having a place to shower and change, as well as it just not being a social norm. I'm sure some of those barriers are said with a bit of a laugh, but I was told at my last job to stop riding in because of arriving sweaty and having to change in the public bathrooms!<br /><br />I would definitely agree that the best way to get people to ride bikes is to make driving a car less convenient - but as a city we've taken exactly the opposite route and hence I wonder if this scheme could ever really work. You mentioned Bogota in your later post, and I reckon one of the main reasons that people have started to ride bikes so much there is that they're put such heavy restrictions on how much people can drive.<br /><br />There's a great behaviour change methodology called 'Community Based Social Marketing' that explores a lot of these ideas about how you get a community to change their behaviour - have you heard of it? It's really interesting to start thinking about these things in that context.Angienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8133337349608142588.post-52347367919018176582010-05-09T02:10:14.847-07:002010-05-09T02:10:14.847-07:00@ Andrew
"Even if I can commute to work on a...@ Andrew<br /><br />"Even if I can commute to work on a bicycle, can I also pick up groceries on the way back? How about 4 bags of groceries for a family?"<br /><br />Absolutely. A simple option is panniers. Another option is a cargo bike extension like the Xtracyle (see Xtracycle.com). I commute, carry my son to school, and can easily carry 4 bags of groceries with this bike. <br /><br />People in Barcelona like the scheme there because they don't have to worry about their own bikes being stolen. Theft is a big problem over there, but I don't recall that theft of the hire bikes was a problem, as they are so distinctive. The council had to spend a lot on maintaining them though.Sophia MacRaenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8133337349608142588.post-60218973213347046312010-05-01T15:11:38.408-07:002010-05-01T15:11:38.408-07:00The mandatory use of helmets is a big issue. We ar...The mandatory use of helmets is a big issue. We are one of the few countries in the world to have this restriction which has never been proven of benefit except to manufacturers and retailers. It is so nice in Europe and just about every other country in the world to be able to ride a bike and to have the choice. I suspect that helmets will have a negative impact on the hire system. Andrew's comment about head lice is quite daunting! <br /><br />A company called GoGet has cars located in inner Brisbane on a similar arrangement to Streetcar. They are way bigger in Sydney but are expanding it seems. A great idea!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8133337349608142588.post-80017215968476373822010-04-22T14:16:07.893-07:002010-04-22T14:16:07.893-07:00Cam - check out street car its a short term car re...Cam - check out <a href="http://www.streetcar.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">street car</a> its a short term car rental facility that works well here.<br /><br />While I like the bicycle stations, I believe it will require a large number of well placed stations to become effective, plus more pathways for cycling.Christianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05530620881895139255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8133337349608142588.post-43732845487522178882010-04-22T05:39:49.711-07:002010-04-22T05:39:49.711-07:00Amsterdam - they just love bicycles there. I don&#...Amsterdam - they just love bicycles there. I don't know if our physche will take to the idea of bicycle rentals, but why not set the space aside and rent it to a private concern. The BCC can offer cheap rent in the beginning until it can be established whether or not this is a viable business. In my view a private concern will be more efficient, and more motivated.<br /><br />That would also offer a lower risk for the BCC and perhaps another income stream. It is much easier to be a landlord than a business owner.<br /><br />While I'm offering suggestions to the BCC. We are currently building walk bridges over the river, and I support that. But if anyone has been to the Ponte De Vecchio in Florence, they would recognise what an opportunity the BCC have to build a bridge that is both a walkway, as well as a place of small commerce in a picturesque setting that would be a hit with tourists. They could create space for a limited number of coffee shops, gift stores etc as long as the bridge is positioned well. In Florence it is jewellery, but here the theme could be anything.<br /><br />More great real estate to earn revenue for the BCC whilst still creating the walk bridges that they want.peter fraserhttp://www.brisbanebusinessfinance.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8133337349608142588.post-37877563270191257952010-04-21T17:04:45.772-07:002010-04-21T17:04:45.772-07:00Andrew,
There is always a risk a bike station will...Andrew,<br />There is always a risk a bike station will be empty. In Paris they offer financial incentives for people to take bicycles in to depots where people rarely leave bikes - the ones on top of hills, and on the outskirts of town.<br />The system takes some tweaking before it functions reliably.<br />And yes, cost is clearly not a barrier to cycling. Why not simply use the space from the scheme for bicycle racks, lockers, bike lanes etc?Cameron Murrayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08737859133901303110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8133337349608142588.post-49134105887275336432010-04-20T15:03:13.464-07:002010-04-20T15:03:13.464-07:00What is the risk that a bicycle will not be availa...What is the risk that a bicycle will not be available at a depot, at the start of a working day? People can't afford often to be late for work.<br /><br />About sharing helmets, I ask: head lice?<br /><br />People can already own and use bicycles. If the only problem is bicycle garages, then why don't we see them now? It can't possibly be that it is the cost of the bicycle that is stopping people.<br /><br />If bicycle garaging is too expensive, difficult, or insecure, then what makes Government think that it is efficient to pay those costs as a subsidy?<br /><br />When people have accidents on poorly maintained public bicycles (bad brakes?), the costs of lawsuits will be "unexpectedly" high.<br /><br />To promote bicycle use and actually displace cars, you would need cheap, convenient car rentals, to fill in the remaining high-value needs of current car owners, even after moving most of their activities out of their car.<br /><br />Even if I can commute to work on a bicycle, can I also pick up groceries on the way back? How about 4 bags of groceries for a family?<br /><br /><a href="http://EasyOpinions.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Easy Opinions</a>Andrew_M_Garlandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02855052302054611917noreply@blogger.com